susan collins, reached back to 1998 to find another example of an intelligence failure. you have to go all the way to 1998? because if you stop along the way -- >> may i add, susan rice may not be implicated in. there are a set of talking points and there is research going on that's circulated to the republicans that she's meeting with before or after the meeting. >> if we go to '98, talk about what the significance of that was. that was hen bin laden came to the fore, we had a sense of who he was, what he was about, one might say, there was a big, glaring, hey, we should pay attention to this guy that the bush administration then ignored. if we're going back to '98, let's move forward and talk about real failures when i don't know 3,000 people were killed. >> or the failure when secretary of state colin powell sold wmds to the world. >> the nfc -- if corker says we hold secretaries of state to a different standard, why wouz condoleezza rice not held to that standard. susan rice did what she was supposed to do, used the unclassified talking points. that was her job. that